Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Tylaen said: I'm expecting some kind of excitement from his success since it is literally impossible for him to fail, and unfortunately when Re:Zero is being not in despair, it is just kind of a chore to watch because it resembles the chuuni manner which so many other series go about success. There is problem. You're talking about this like it over. He hasn't had success yet. He's only take care of prep work. His biggest obstacle is right in front him. If last episode should have thought you anything (and he learned in this episode) not to take things for granted. And I didn't know that using your head, knowledge, smart devising and changing your approach to a problem was chunni, but okay. The internet forgetting the meaning of words is nothing new. Unless people somehow forgot her character while she was irrelevant which could be forgiven, as she is pretty forgettable. That's pretty shit excuse and more reason why you need her perspective. If you don't care tough, you aren't the one who decides what the show focus on or not. Nobody can do anything about rejecting whatever you see. |
cooljay said: I wonder if that small girl Petra has a special eye to see through illusion? or a special blessing, remember back in WP15 we saw her eye been scotched out while ram's didn't and it's obvious in this ep she could tell Emilia was the one that gave them stemps back in ep12(while she was wearing magic coat) , she can also see though subaru while he is wearing the magic coat(even Emilia couldn't tell!! ) Cativa said: cooljay said: I wonder if that small girl Petra has a special eye to see through illusion? or a special blessing, remember back in WP15 we saw her eye been scotched out while ram's didn't and it's obvious in this ep she could tell Emilia was the one that gave them stemps back in ep12(while she was wearing magic coat) , she can also see though subaru while he is wearing the magic coat(even Emilia couldn't tell!! ) At this point I'm more likely to guess it's a plot hole than that she really is special in any way... :( Petra and all the villagers met him before he put on the cloak and went to the manison. the would know it was him. |
Jagd84 said: Twisting my words to mean what I don't mean and fundamentally misunderstanding one of my reasons is pretty pathetic of you.Tylaen said: I'm expecting some kind of excitement from his success since it is literally impossible for him to fail, and unfortunately when Re:Zero is being not in despair, it is just kind of a chore to watch because it resembles the chuuni manner which so many other series go about success. There is problem. You're talking about this like it over. He hasn't had success yet. He's only take care of prep work. His biggest obstacle is right in front him. If last episode should have thought you anything (and he learned in this episode) not to take things for granted. And I didn't know that using your head, knowledge, smart devising and changing your approach to a problem was chunni, but okay. The internet forgetting the meaning of words is nothing new. Unless people somehow forgot her character while she was irrelevant which could be forgiven, as she is pretty forgettable. That's pretty shit excuse and more reason why you need her perspective. If you don't care tough, you aren't the one who decides what the show focus on or not. Nobody can do anything about rejecting whatever you see. Anyway, goodnight and see you tomorrow. |
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Tylaen said: Jagd84 said: Twisting my words to mean what I don't mean and fundamentally misunderstanding one of my reasons is pretty pathetic of you.There is problem. You're talking about this like it over. He hasn't had success yet. He's only take care of prep work. His biggest obstacle is right in front him. If last episode should have thought you anything (and he learned in this episode) not to take things for granted. And I didn't know that using your head, knowledge, smart devising and changing your approach to a problem was chunni, but okay. The internet forgetting the meaning of words is nothing new. That's pretty shit excuse and more reason why you need her perspective. If you don't care tough, you aren't the one who decides what the show focus on or not. Nobody can do anything about rejecting whatever you see. Anyway, goodnight and see you tomorrow. It's like he was rejecting whatever he didn't want to see. Like the fact that you said Emilia was easy to understand :) |
Tylaen said: Jagd84 said: Twisting my words to mean what I don't mean and fundamentally misunderstanding one of my reasons is pretty pathetic of you.There is problem. You're talking about this like it over. He hasn't had success yet. He's only take care of prep work. His biggest obstacle is right in front him. If last episode should have thought you anything (and he learned in this episode) not to take things for granted. And I didn't know that using your head, knowledge, smart devising and changing your approach to a problem was chunni, but okay. The internet forgetting the meaning of words is nothing new. That's pretty shit excuse and more reason why you need her perspective. If you don't care tough, you aren't the one who decides what the show focus on or not. Nobody can do anything about rejecting whatever you see. Anyway, goodnight and see you tomorrow. I didn't twist anything. I addressed you points and you didn't give satisfactory justification from them and even misused a word to describe one of your problem. You basically complaining about something that can be levelled at any show. Re:Zero never about just despair to begin with. It was always about perseverance. About a boy overcoming nearly insurmountable odds and struggling with both deeply rooted physical and internal problems. Getting to point he is right wasn't easy and he had sweat and blood and tears for it. Even here now there no guarantee for him that everything will turn out alright. Even beat Betelgeuse here, it's something that was well earned. |
| That ending had me fanboying. Julius hype! |
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Verifax said: It's like he was rejecting whatever he didn't want to see. Like the fact that you said Emilia was easy to understand :) Then why was so many people not getting why she cried at end of last episode? Sorry but reality degree with you. It's not about whether she easy to understand or not, none of characters here are hard understand. Even without flashback it was we already knew Wilhelm loved his wife from his dialogue. But it is hollow if it's not shown from his perspective. Those kinds of things are big deal to these characters and affects their decisions. That's why time spent on it. |
Iron_MawSep 11, 2016 6:11 PM
Angry_Always said: I felt the same about 'god damn I want to see their reactions to his death!!!'. Well |
Jagd84 said: Tylaen said: Twisting my words to mean what I don't mean and fundamentally misunderstanding one of my reasons is pretty pathetic of you. Anyway, goodnight and see you tomorrow. I didn't twist anything. I addressed you points and you didn't give satisfactory justification from them and even misused a word to describe one of your problem. You basically complaining about something that can be levelled at any show. Re:Zero never about just despair to begin with. It was always about perseverance. About a boy overcoming nearly insurmountable odds and struggling with both deeply rooted physical and internal problems. Getting to point he is right wasn't easy and he had sweat and blood and tears for it. Even here now there no guarantee for him that everything will turn out alright. Even beat Betelgeuse here, it's something that was well earned. He only said that the show is enjoyable to him when it's in despair mode, but not when it goes satisfactory. That, and that Emilia is easy to understand. You realize that everything you said thus far hasn't adressed that at all? In fact why would it even need to be adressed. Also it's quite understandable that Subaru's succes might be dull to watch, because he hasn't lost anything in return for all his succes so far. Re;zero now more than ever needs a permanent death through a new checkpoint. This show has lost any sense of stakes being present now that Subaru's psychological issues have all seemingly been adressed. Honestly I'm surprised I even need to tell you this. But this is how Re;zero looks to anime viewers at this point. Try to think about the perspective people convey, instead of only their words next time. |
| Glad to see Subaru using his brains to his fullest extent. The plans he came up with were great and definitely made things easier on everyone this time around. He even goes as far as sharing senses with his "arch nemesis". I do agree that the animation in this is a little watered down but there was not much happening in this episode other than the quick battles. The final piece with Julius and Betelguese looked pretty good in my opinion but definitely not up to par how the first cour was. I understand why people didn't like the animation in this part but you gotta think about the setting as well. Having bright and colorful things all over the place from Julius and Black/Purple hands from Betelguese during the day time in a rocky biome didn't help the animation look great. |
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Jagd84 said: Verifax said: It's like he was rejecting whatever he didn't want to see. Like the fact that you said Emilia was easy to understand :) Then why was so many people not getting why she cried at end of last episode? Sorry but reality degree with you. It's not about whether she easy to understand or not, none of characters here are hard understand. Even without flashback it was we already knew Wilhelm loved his wife from his dialogue. But it is hollow it's not shown. Those kinds of things are big deal to these characters and affects their decisions. That's why time spent on it. Well first off, from what I read from discussions that was anime-orginal. And there was no way of knowing what she felt, so people were just making things up. All we can reasonably assume so far is that she felt off-put because of how gentle she is. We don't know anything else about Emilia except that she's gentle, wants friends, and for some reason wants to be king. None of the characters are hard to understand? Subaru was. You know the Protagonist, someone Emilia should be somewhat comparable to. I'm not in the camp that thinks these flashbacks were out of place, but they didn't add all that much. It's a good thing she's finally getting some real characterization though. But for now Emilia is just EMT. We know as little about her as Subaru does, therefore everything related to her feels hollow. |
Great episode. Can we say that Ferris won the best grill and shipping wars? |
Can't wait for final! |
| The pacing was at a snails pace, Korean animation, asspulls; pretty much the definition of a 2/5 episode. |
Man the things you see on the internet and the funny part is his facial expression pretty much matches up with all those thoughts lol |
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| I was thinking about the 1st loop at the beginning of the show and how badass the fight was with Elsa and compared to that, this is kind of lame. I'm sick of this Sloth character now. Also the animation has declined in quality as well. Hope the final makes up for it. |
Rehls said: RedaJaNai said: lol wow if you didn't see any problems with art/animation you're either blind or a fanboy.. like, look at the Julius pic above your post.... Nope. You're stupid and I was paying more attention to the subtitles at the moment, and didn't notice the blink. It's the usual Rehls, people pay more attention to other stuff than the content just look at people asking questions that were explained in the episode. |
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Bushishi said: Verifax said: Well first off, from what I read from discussions that was anime-orginal. And there was no way of knowing what she felt, so people were just making things up. All we can reasonably assume so far is that she felt off-put because of how gentle she is. We don't know anything else about Emilia except that she's gentle, wants friends, and for some reason wants to be king. None of the characters are hard to understand? Subaru was. You know the Protagonist, someone Emilia should be somewhat comparable to. I'm not in the camp that thinks these flashbacks were out of place, but they didn't add all that much. It's a good thing she's finally getting some real characterization though. But for now Emilia is just EMT. We know as little about her as Subaru does, therefore everything related to her feels hollow. At first I felt it was okay for Emilia to come off as a hollow character since the story is almost shown exclusively from Subaru's perspective, who mostly see's her as a trophy. But as the anime has progressed, Subaru has grown to truly care for Emilia without objectifying her, and the story switches to other perspectives, I kinda find it unforgivable for her to NOT have proper development at this point... I feel you, I had the exact same thoughts. I'm sure Emilia's closet of secrets will take center stage in the next arc. She'll probably go on some kind of trip to actually becoming a character worth rooting for as a candidate to become king. I'm all for SubaruxEmilia if his crush can grow into actual love. I'd like Emilia to become a lot more like Crusch. Someone who doesn't twiddle her thumbs whenever she meets people, and someone who can inspire others. We'll see in .. 2020? If planet Earth survives the next American president ofcourse. |
| won't lie i fell into the trap with how the fights looked in the earlier episodes but been kinda meh more than usual at the start i thought the video had frozen because there was no lip animation when Subaru was talking. not my favorite episode felt like after the reset it had the "whole everything is going as plan vibe" allowing Subaru to arrogantly boast without issue, was waiting for it throw a curve ball at us. also i don't know if he simply dodge his wording or the things he talked about were easy for everyone to understand but i was expecting the his "heart" strings to get pulled at least once since he had the knowledge of the reset to rethink everything. |
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Cakedog said: The series ended after episode 15. I feel the same way. I haven't been very interested or impressed by it since then. |
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on Verifax said: He only said that the show is enjoyable to him when it's in despair mode, but not when it goes satisfactory. That, and that Emilia is easy to understand. I got and I disagreed. What's I don't understand is what that has to do with chunni? It's not as Subaru is powering up DBZ style or pulling out some BS level of planning al'a Leluoch. You realize that everything you said thus far hasn't adressed that at all? In fact why would it even need to be adressed. ? Also it's quite understandable that Subaru's succes might be dull to watch, because he hasn't lost anything in return for all his succes so far. Re;zero now more than ever needs a permanent death through a new checkpoint. This show has lost any sense of stakes being present now that Subaru's psychological issues have all seemingly been adressed. That's a silly way to look at it. He doesn't need lose anything when he's been in series of losing everything for nearly 10 episodes. People had forgotten up until point where last he succeeded at anything. Just because he finally making some headway doesn't mean things can't got foul, that was one of points of epiosde 23. I don't understand why don't get that. There is always going be a chance of failure, but doesn't necessary means he needs to fail. Honestly I'm surprised I even need to tell you this. But this is how Re;zero looks to anime viewers at this point. Try to think about the perspective people convey, instead of only their words next time. Stop speaking for everybody. That how you view it, that's why don't like this and last episode failed then and him unaware several important things end badly for him. Suabru had moments when his work played off (see ep 3 and ep 11) and were cathartic. Verifax said: Jagd84 said: Then why was so many people not getting why she cried at end of last episode? Sorry but reality degree with you. It's not about whether she easy to understand or not, none of characters here are hard understand. Even without flashback it was we already knew Wilhelm loved his wife from his dialogue. But it is hollow it's not shown. Those kinds of things are big deal to these characters and affects their decisions. That's why time spent on it. Well first off, from what I read from discussions that was anime-orginal. And there was no way of knowing what she felt, so people were just making things up. All we can reasonably assume so far is that she felt off-put because of how gentle she is. We don't know anything else about Emilia except that she's gentle, wants friends, and for some reason wants to be king. None of the characters are hard to understand? Subaru was. You know the Protagonist, someone Emilia should be somewhat comparable to. I'm not in the camp that thinks these flashbacks were out of place, but they didn't add all that much. It's a good thing she's finally getting some real characterization though. But for now Emilia is just EMT. We know as little about her as Subaru does, therefore everything related to her feels hollow. The WN and LN already diverged from this point terms of events so bring up that fact it was anime-original scene holds little weight. Besides the author is on staff as consultant for the show so it might been his suggestion to add to start with. You're description of what Emilia might have felt at that point is just you interpretation. Not everyone agreed with that which why was argued back and forth fro a time. The fact this agreement exist means not everyone saw it that way or immediate got that. He isn't particularity hard to understand either, and unlike everyone else we are in his head all the time. We know enough about Emilia as we need to understand her thanks to scenes, so I don't agree with her problems or the difficulties she faces being hollow. That's like saying Rem's feeling of inferior to her sister is hollow. For character like that to exist they wouldn't have any server issues or history at all. All these things add their characters. Remember Emilia is often shown to be very confident type of person we rarely see her in moments of weakness and uncertainity like this. It shows that she doesn't have confidence she outwardly displays nor does she believe the good will of others because she hasn't receive much herself. |
Iron_MawSep 11, 2016 7:01 PM
| Good episode I guess. Everything well smoothly, waaay too smoothly, I expect some serious shit to happen next week. Talon184 said: Cakedog said: The series ended after episode 15. I feel the same way. I haven't been very interested or impressed by it since then. Kinda same here :v The current arc isn't that entertaining or engaging I guess. |
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Kitsu-nee said: Good episode I guess. Everything well smoothly, waaay too smoothly, I expect some serious shit to happen next episode. Kinda same here :v The current arc isn't that entertaining or engaging I guess. In fairness none of ones prior to that has been as good as that episode either. I don't see why that is bad thing though. I find all other episodes have been of great to good quality personally with ep 18, 21 and 23 particularity excellent. |
Haru_Kitsune said: No, that was Subaru who said it and I know. That statement stands by itself even if you take into consideration the plot point.Immahnoob said: "Wait, that's my coat. And I know your voice, Subaru." - Emilia, in any realistic situation. didn't felis say that it's specially/magically(?) woven to prevent people to recognize who wears it? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Haru_Kitsune said: Immahnoob said: "Wait, that's my coat. And I know your voice, Subaru." - Emilia, in any realistic situation. didn't felis say that it's specially/magically(?) woven to prevent people to recognize who wears it? He's talking about why Emilia didn't recognized her cloak not why she didn't know it was Subaru in it. I point out that cloak itself is pretty common as suggestion why. |
violetta_96 said: Rance-sama said: I thought Reinhard was the greatest knight? Reinhard is the strongest knight Then Subaru shouldn't have said "the greatest knight" to him then. |
Verifax said: How many times have you died, @Verifax?Also it's quite understandable that Subaru's succes might be dull to watch, because he hasn't lost anything in return for all his succes so far.. Jagd84 said: If Emilia is below average in terms of photographic memory, intelligence and maybe even physically incapable, then sure, in a realistic situation, she would not be able to see that that's her own cloak.He's talking about why Emilia didn't recognized her cloak not why she didn't know it was Subaru in it. I point out that cloak itself is pretty common as suggestion why. As I said before, your basis on how recognition works is only a self-made example, the average individual does recognize their own clothes on another person. Also, that's not really what I meant at all, re-read what I said. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| I wonder if this anime is covering even 30 % of the entire story... As always, gonna completely lose interest when the next season comes out(if it does ever). |
Bushishi said: Verifax said: I feel you, I had the exact same thoughts. I'm sure Emilia's closet of secrets will take center stage in the next arc. She'll probably go on some kind of trip to actually becoming a character worth rooting for as a candidate to become king. I'm all for SubaruxEmilia if his crush can grow into actual love. I'd like Emilia to become a lot more like Crusch. Someone who doesn't twiddle her thumbs whenever she meets people, and someone who can inspire others. We'll see in .. 2020? If planet Earth survives the next American president ofcourse. If the story was shown PURELY from Subaru's perspective, then I'd have no problem with Emilia's lack of development, because once Subaru seems to have started maturing in arc 3, Emilia's already gone, so she still wouldn't be able to receive development. Bud, Crusch is on a different level of leadership. Yea Crusch should've been the real heroine, she's just that good :) |
Jagd84 said: In fairness none of ones prior to that has been as good as that episode either. I don't see why that is bad thing though. I find all other episodes have been of great to good quality personally with ep 18, 21 and 23 particularity excellent. Yeah, that's kinda what I'm talking about, it's fine. Animation is fine, music is fine, characters are fine. Everything is fine. But there is nothing really special about this arc, nothing really unexpected happened so far, some random guys died but that's about it. Very few interesting interactions between characters (not counting the very begining of the arc), Subaru is pretty standard shounen protagonist right now. Nothing extraordinary about it. And first two arcs made me think that this series could be real great, that's what makes me a bit sad and disappointed. That's just my opinion, of course. |
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| @Bushishi @Verifax Character development /=/ Necessary This isn't an answer made specifically for Emilia, but in general. There's no reason for every character in every Anime, LN, book, movie, etc to change their perspective throughout a story. They could be grown characters from the start to the ending and not lose any type of appeal, unless you're completely closed minded. As for Emilia, I hope you guys are making fun of me. What exactly has she went through for her to develop? As long as Subaru is carrying her on his back, you won't see any real development, unless you want it forced. Hell, she actually had development this very episode. That moment with the children. Another moment induced by Subaru himself to make her stop self-hating and seeing herself as a "half-devil". I wonder why critical thinking is so rare on this Earth nowadays? Kitsu-nee said: Are you certain you're targeting the arc as a whole, or only this episode?Yeah, that's kinda what I'm talking about, it's fine. Animation is fine, music is fine, characters are fine. Everything is fine. But there is nothing really special about this arc, nothing really unexpected happened so far, some random guys died but that's about it. Very few interesting interactions between characters (not counting the very begining of the arc), Subaru is pretty standard shounen protagonist right now. Nothing extraordinary about it. And first two arcs made me think that this series could be real great, that's what makes me a bit sad and disappointed. That's just my opinion, of course. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| I honestly didn't notice any sort of decline in art/animation. Leave it to MAL users on the Re:Zero episode discussion to find something to complain about. I loved seeing Betelgeuse again, my brain trembled when I saw him. He's probably going to become one of my favorite characters of all time. He's just so entertaining and hilarious! It was also nice seeing everything go so smoothly for Subaru, and it'll be awesome when he finally beats Betelgeuse once and for all next week. And I'll be so sad when this ends. Though, at the same time, I'm super hyped for the finale! |
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